Comments on: Staffie to France? Non! http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/ hello! Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:21:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.4-bleeding By: Nicci Chilcott http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-9052 Nicci Chilcott Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:19:33 +0000 http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-9052 Having read all previous reports, I am very disappointed to learn that my family's planned move to France could now not happen. We have a Staff x with a Ridgeback 8yrs old and a staff 2yrs 6months - no papers. The plan would have been to be able to travel to the uk 2 - 3 times a year with our beloved boys, but now ALL our plans have been put on hold. The house is going on the market on the 25th June and we have crossings booked and paid for to look at properties in 4 weeks time - no dogs on that trip, they do not hold a current passport. I would appreciate any comments or updates on the transportation of staffy breeds to France. Having read all previous reports, I am very disappointed to learn that my family’s planned move to France could now not happen. We have a Staff x with a Ridgeback 8yrs old and a staff 2yrs 6months - no papers. The plan would have been to be able to travel to the uk 2 - 3 times a year with our beloved boys, but now ALL our plans have been put on hold. The house is going on the market on the 25th June and we have crossings booked and paid for to look at properties in 4 weeks time - no dogs on that trip, they do not hold a current passport. I would appreciate any comments or updates on the transportation of staffy breeds to France.

]]> By: Kathy Gledhill http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-9033 Kathy Gledhill Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:07:49 +0000 http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-9033 Me again, sorry just read some more of the reports poeple have posted. Never ever get anyone in France to even believe your dog is a staffie x. The letter from the vet to say it is a cross but a very nice one ....... will not wash. Full Staffies without papers are not allowed at all. In fact staffies that live in France without papers have to be muzzled in public at all times. If your staffie is a pedigree then carry the papers with you at all times. never ever admit your dog is a staffie x. Give it as a Collie x or whatever and ensure the pets passport has the word CROSSBREED on it. Even if it means changing your vet !! Me again, sorry just read some more of the reports poeple have posted.
Never ever get anyone in France to even believe your dog is a staffie x. The letter from the vet to say it is a cross but a very nice one ……. will not wash. Full Staffies without papers are not allowed at all. In fact staffies that live in France without papers have to be muzzled in public at all times. If your staffie is a pedigree then carry the papers with you at all times. never ever admit your dog is a staffie x. Give it as a Collie x or whatever and ensure the pets passport has the word CROSSBREED on it. Even if it means changing your vet !!

]]> By: Kathy Gledhill http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-9032 Kathy Gledhill Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:03:24 +0000 http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-9032 My dog Polly is a Staffie x Collie cross. She looks vagely similar to a staffie if you know what you are looking for. She loves people and all dogs. I knew about the legislation beforehand (as anyone who has studied the website with regard this should do). I explained the problem to my vet and she willingly put on her passport ~ Crossbreed. Any vet who does not do this, then I would change to a vet that would. Some vets are really helpful, some are not. My dog has already been to France with us and will go again next week. If anyone over there asks me what breed she is I will say a Collie x ? Also we are taking the other dog who is a full staffie. She is okay as she has pedigree papers. We are careful not to let them jump (friendly like as they do) at people and would not allow them off lead unless it was in a quiet place. Just in case anyone took exception to them. We also intend to live down there and certainly take the dogs with us. Kathy My dog Polly is a Staffie x Collie cross. She looks vagely similar to a staffie if you know what you are looking for. She loves people and all dogs. I knew about the legislation beforehand (as anyone who has studied the website with regard this should do). I explained the problem to my vet and she willingly put on her passport ~ Crossbreed. Any vet who does not do this, then I would change to a vet that would. Some vets are really helpful, some are not.
My dog has already been to France with us and will go again next week. If anyone over there asks me what breed she is I will say a Collie x ?
Also we are taking the other dog who is a full staffie. She is okay as she has pedigree papers. We are careful not to let them jump (friendly like as they do) at people and would not allow them off lead unless it was in a quiet place. Just in case anyone took exception to them. We also intend to live down there and certainly take the dogs with us.

Kathy

]]> By: Lesley http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-9016 Lesley Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:05:35 +0000 http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-9016 We have camped in the UK since we heard of the problem with Staffies, afraid of the possible consequences. We know a lot of folks who say: 'Just go, and take the risk'..... but we value our four legged friend too much..... Last week we were at the Stratford Motor-home & RV Show and met people who had recently toured France. They were owners of a large dog, though being an Otter Hound, it does not feature in the 'dangerous dogs' lists. They told us that on several camp sites, checks were made on the breeds of dogs travelling with campers.... so we shall continue to support the UK tourist industry in preference to that of Euroland We have camped in the UK since we heard of the problem with Staffies, afraid of the possible consequences. We know a lot of folks who say: ‘Just go, and take the risk’….. but we value our four legged friend too much…..

Last week we were at the Stratford Motor-home & RV Show and met people who had recently toured France. They were owners of a large dog, though being an Otter Hound, it does not feature in the ‘dangerous dogs’ lists.

They told us that on several camp sites, checks were made on the breeds of dogs travelling with campers…. so we shall continue to support the UK tourist industry in preference to that of Euroland

]]> By: Emma http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8983 Emma Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:22:13 +0000 http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8983 Hi there, I too am keen to know if there is any news on this? we are moving to france in august and have just been to the vet for his passport and were told that there may be a problem with him being allowed in the country. He is a staffy without papers. I am so confused about this. what is the issue, is it that staffys arent allowed in france, or staffy crosses or staffies without papers? i cant bare the thought of not being able to take my dog with us to france, particulary when he is the nicest natured dog i have ever known! If someone could clarify i would be so grateful! thanks in advance Emma Hi there,
I too am keen to know if there is any news on this? we are moving to france in august and have just been to the vet for his passport and were told that there may be a problem with him being allowed in the country. He is a staffy without papers. I am so confused about this. what is the issue, is it that staffys arent allowed in france, or staffy crosses or staffies without papers?
i cant bare the thought of not being able to take my dog with us to france, particulary when he is the nicest natured dog i have ever known!
If someone could clarify i would be so grateful!
thanks in advance
Emma

]]> By: wendy borowiak http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8864 wendy borowiak Fri, 02 May 2008 15:59:44 +0000 http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8864 Hi anyone, whats the latest news on the Staffie being accepted into France ??? Can a Staffie be accepted even if we have no pedigree papers, he was from the RSPCA Hi anyone,
whats the latest news on the Staffie being accepted into France ???

Can a Staffie be accepted even if we have no pedigree papers, he was from the RSPCA

]]> By: Christal http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8822 Christal Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:59:32 +0000 http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8822 PLEASE HELP - ANYONE: Firstly (re Linda 31 July 2007), I would like to ask, Linda, if you ever did go to France with your "Cross Breed" dog. We rescued a staff cross called Charlie last August 2007, and after leaving him in kennels for our pre-planned holiday we returned to find a very sad dog indeed. So we vowed never to leave him again. We sold our small car and bought an estate car, thule roof box, camping gear. We got Charlie sorted our with his passport. On the day we collected the passport we were given an internet printout with all the blurb!!!!! We had by then already booked on the Eurotunnel for beginning of May 08. Oh dear. What to do. I think we will just risk it. Charlie is fawn colour all over. His passport did say "Staffordshire Terrier Cross", but got the vet to change it to "Terrier Cross". Perhaps we should go back tomorrow and ask for it to say "Cross Breed"? We also got our vet to write a certificate saying: "To whom it may concern: Re Charlie Porteous, 5 y.o. Cross breed dog. ID no 981000002098495 I have examined this dog today and believe it to be a crossbreed. The legs and tail are longer than the breed standard for a Staffordshire bull terrier. The head is also much narrower than a Staffordshire terrier and the dog is not as well muscled as is normal for the breed. The characteristics and temperament of this dog are not in line with the type known as the Staffordshire terrier." Please can anyone update me with current news? Linda 31 July 2007 PLEASE HELP - ANYONE: Firstly (re Linda 31 July 2007), I would like to ask, Linda, if you ever did go to France with your “Cross Breed” dog. We rescued a staff cross called Charlie last August 2007, and after leaving him in kennels for our pre-planned holiday we returned to find a very sad dog indeed. So we vowed never to leave him again. We sold our small car and bought an estate car, thule roof box, camping gear. We got Charlie sorted our with his passport. On the day we collected the passport we were given an internet printout with all the blurb!!!!! We had by then already booked on the Eurotunnel for beginning of May 08. Oh dear. What to do. I think we will just risk it. Charlie is fawn colour all over. His passport did say “Staffordshire Terrier Cross”, but got the vet to change it to “Terrier Cross”. Perhaps we should go back tomorrow and ask for it to say “Cross Breed”?

We also got our vet to write a certificate saying: “To whom it may concern:

Re Charlie Porteous, 5 y.o. Cross breed dog. ID no 981000002098495

I have examined this dog today and believe it to be a crossbreed. The legs and tail are longer than the breed standard for a Staffordshire bull terrier. The head is also much narrower than a Staffordshire terrier and the dog is not as well muscled as is normal for the breed. The characteristics and temperament of this dog are not in line with the type known as the Staffordshire terrier.”

Please can anyone update me with current news?

Linda 31 July 2007

]]> By: flovic http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8802 flovic Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:19:20 +0000 http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8802 Me & my partner are travelling to france with our staffordshire bull terrier & Rottweiler in September. Our Staffy has no papers, from what i can gather if we get our vets to sign something official we will be ok to take her on holiday, she is a full staffy. What do you reckon our chances are? Again we have already got the passports & then find all this crap out, about staffies being dangerous in France. Me & my partner are travelling to france with our staffordshire bull terrier & Rottweiler in September.
Our Staffy has no papers, from what i can gather if we get our vets to sign something official we will be ok to take her on holiday, she is a full staffy. What do you reckon our chances are? Again we have already got the passports & then find all this crap out, about staffies being dangerous in France.

]]> By: gowen.org » Blog Archive » Portugal bans ‘dangerous dogs’ http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8767 gowen.org » Blog Archive » Portugal bans ‘dangerous dogs’ Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:24:35 +0000 http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8767 [...] I hope this information might help anyone considering taking their pet dog abroad with them on holiday this year. It follows last year’s ruling in France  [...] […] I hope this information might help anyone considering taking their pet dog abroad with them on holiday this year. It follows last year’s ruling in France  […]

]]> By: Sarah http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8706 Sarah Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:28:53 +0000 http://gowen.org/staffie-to-france-non/#comment-8706 Thanks for your response and I agree that the ban on certain cross breeds needs to be reconsidered. I am a Staffordshire Bull Terrier owner and love the breed but I am in no way blinkered to the fact that they can be vicious dogs. In my extensive experience however so can many dogs of various other breeds- spaniels for example are notoriously bad at guarding their food and displaying high levels of possession and I have witnessed several vicious attacks on their handlers. SBT's have such a bad reputation which I truly believe is down to irresponsible ownership and breeding. Just to address one of your points about why anyone would want to own an attack dog... PLease bear in mnd that the umbrella term 'attack dog' is what they were originally bred for but this has deminished and they are successfully owned as pets who don't attack. Collie's are 'working' dogs but many people own them in a non-working capacity, the small terriers (cairns etc) are 'rat dogs' but are likewise rarely used for this. The original reasons for breeding dogs are not so needed now so all breeds have become companion and pet dogs. Thanks for your response and I agree that the ban on certain cross breeds needs to be reconsidered.

I am a Staffordshire Bull Terrier owner and love the breed but I am in no way blinkered to the fact that they can be vicious dogs. In my extensive experience however so can many dogs of various other breeds- spaniels for example are notoriously bad at guarding their food and displaying high levels of possession and I have witnessed several vicious attacks on their handlers. SBT’s have such a bad reputation which I truly believe is down to irresponsible ownership and breeding.

Just to address one of your points about why anyone would want to own an attack dog… PLease bear in mnd that the umbrella term ‘attack dog’ is what they were originally bred for but this has deminished and they are successfully owned as pets who don’t attack. Collie’s are ‘working’ dogs but many people own them in a non-working capacity, the small terriers (cairns etc) are ‘rat dogs’ but are likewise rarely used for this. The original reasons for breeding dogs are not so needed now so all breeds have become companion and pet dogs.

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